In September, 2002, Pat Berg interviewed Dr. Sandra Herbage (are names destiny? :-)) about her experiences with Miracle II on the weekly conference call (see times and numbers in header, above). This is a transcript of that program.

"Tonight's call featured an interview with Dr. Sandra Herbage. Dr. Herbage is an MD, as well as holding a degree in Homeopathy. She is the Medical Director for the Madison Holistic Health Center in Madison, Wisconsin.

Dr. Herbage told us she diagnosed herself with breast cancer in October, 2001. Following surgery, the reports indicated that all malignant tissue had been removed ... everything looked clean and nothing had spread. So Dr. Herbage elected to have no chemo, no radiation. Instead, she began an herbal program, and then, because she was not anxious ... settled down into a standard herbal program, setting aside the intense herbs.

In February, Dr. Herbage again had a blood test ... a lump had shown up in the breast, and the blood test revealed that she still had cancer! She went back on the intense herbal program; however, the herbs began hurting her stomach ... she developed an ulcer and the stomach pain was so bad that she couldn't eat, and finally had to stop taking the herbs. She had run out of options, and had a long talk with the Lord, asking for direction ... "I don't know what to do."

In April, her husband who was away on a trip brought back some Miracle II. He had used it for his chronic pain, and it went away. He suggested she try it for the breast cancer. Well! This unimpressive little bottle ... this "inexpensive cure-all" did not catch her attention, and she disregarded it. However, her husband kept calling, asking her if she had taken it. Finally, to keep peace in the family ... she condescended to take 7 drops. Dr. Herbage took 7 drops for 7 days. The next week she had another blood test. It was "Normal." Yes, after one week, the blood test was Normal and the lump had gone away! It took her a while to comprehend this. Finally, after one week, when she really understood that she was cured, she read Amazing Grace. She couldn't sleep that night. And now, she turns to Miracle II for everything!

When the breast cancer had been cured after one week of 7 drops, the reading was "Normal" -- 100, just on the borderline, but... "Normal." Five weeks later, still adjusting to her miracle, Dr. Herbage had another blood test done. This time, it was fully in the "Normal" range ... it was 60!

One of Dr. Herbage's breast-cancer patients had a mastectomy, followed by radiation. She was so sick after all of this trauma, and had another blood test: 220. Cancer still very active. She went on an alternative program. Another blood test: 180. Cancer still active. Dr. Herbage then got her on 7 drops of Miracle II. One month later she came in for another blood test: 41. No Cancer!

Dr. Herbage's mother is a diabetic. She got on Miracle II for one month and found it was definitely lowering the blood sugar ... so much so, that it is making her insulin hard to regulate.

Another diabetes patient, not on insulin, started on Miracle II. He found that the 7 drops did not do it, but ... 10 to 11 drops DID lower his blood sugar ... dropping 10 to 15 points each time!

There was a discussion about cataracts. Dr. Herbage had a patient using 6 to 7 drops in the eye, but it was running out. It was suggested he try an eye cup, as Clayton recommends. Jerry Kraft told his story of improvement of glaucoma, as well as damaged tissue.

Dr. Herbage told of a patient with sinusitis, who she had just put on Miracle II, when she left for a trip. While she was away, no sinusitis. But, as soon as she got home, it started. Then she remember ... got out the Miracle II, took 7 drops ... no headache! Other pain also dropped by 25% to 50%.

Dr. Herbage told of skin improvements after taking the baths. She is still amazed that for almost everyone and their problems, she has one answer: Miracle II!

Dr. Herbage was particularly impressed with Miracle II helping her daughter's fibromyalgia. Her daughter had just had a 3-day "flare-up." She was in bed. 7 drops of Miracle II, and the next morning she was 70% better!

Dr. Herbage thought one time that she had a fever. Then, she realized her circulation had kicked in ... this was nice, normal, body warmth ... instead of her usual cold skin.

One patient with fibromyalgia was so impressed with the immediate pain results, she purchased two gallons!

As to arthritic pain ... the Gel lessens the pain. And yes, it does come back. Then more Gel. However, the baseline is getting better, and over time, less meds are needed.

One patient with a bad skin problem was told to bathe in Miracle II. He complained he didn't like that "Soap" -- when he dried off, the towel TURNED BLACK! Dr. Herbage commented on the wonder of "Anything that can pull stuff out of our body like that! Amazing!

Asked if Miracle II could help a friend with colon cancer, Dr. Herbage said "There is always hope. I just tell them, 'I don't know what this will do for you, but it has helped a lot of people."

Dr. Herbage also commented on people getting on Miracle II after having chemo. "If they take a Miracle II bath, have them then step into the shower and rinse the Miracle II off. If they leave it on, it will continue to pull out the chemo and it will burn the skin."

One patient left it on, but really didn't care, saying "It is saving my life!"

Dr. Herbage said that on chronic problems, like Fibro, people can take their time and work up slowly. However, if someone is dealing with terminal cancer, you must work up as quickly as you can ... and have them drink lots of water! I tell them to take their Neutralizer in water ... that way I get more water into them!"

Thank you Dr. Herbage ... we look forward to your next visit!"

posted by Joel at 9:43 AM

I went for my thrice-yearly dental hygiene appointment today. I was looking forward to it more than usual, because since I signed on with Miracle II--on October 14--I've been only using Neutralizer and soap in my mouth (on a Sonicare toothbrush). That is, I stopped my daily flossing, and gave up any other toothpaste.

My hygienist was amazed at how smooth and slippery my teeth are! She said that whatever I was doing was working. I had thought it was, but it was nice to get verification.

I've invested about $20,000 in this mouth over the last 12 years, so I want to take good care of it; Miracle II is letting me do that without making myself sick with the stuff in toothpastes!

Joel
posted by Joel at 9:41 PM

Many tips:
* Various eye problems, including macular degeneration, iritis, cataracts, and more: drops of Neutralizer in the eye; Neutralizer Gel in compress; rub on bridge of nose, allowing some to get into eyes. Testimony of Vietnam vet who opted not to undergo cataract surgery, and was healed.
* Jerry Kraft put 12 drops of green soap and 2 ounces of Neutralizer into a medium-size humidifier and put it in the bedroom when he slept. His life-long cough disappeared completely in about three weeks!
* Put a pea-size dollop of Neutralizer Gel under your tongue for excessive mucus in the throat, or before public speaking.
* For incontinence: Gel over the bladder and on diaper. Sleep with it.
* Cancer patients: Start with a few drops in water a day, and build up to an ounce a day. Also, put a poultice of Neutralizer-soaked cloth on an affected area and tape some plastic wrap over it; sleep with it three times a week.

Dr. Mantel announced that the LAF Miracle II company will be marketing a "zapper," which is described by Dr. Hulda Clark in "A Cure for All Cancers." It's not ready yet, but will be coming soon.

(Until the LAF Miracle II zapper shows up, anyone interested in zappers right now should check out Arthur Doerksen's, available now at a special sale price. Click here. On this site, you can learn about the technology. Arthur is also a Miracle II marketing rep.)
posted by Joel at 7:36 PM

Pat Berg interviewed Dr. Speer last week on the Tuesday-night conference call. Speer is a doctor of naturopathy.

"Anyone who is not using the products for massage is missing much of its benefit," said Dr. Speer. He recommends alternating with a half-water-half-soap mixture and straight neutralizer. "These are the only products I have even heard of whose effects last three days," he said.

His experience is that one out of three people experience a "miracle" (his characterization of a dramatic improvement). All experience some kind of improvement.

"But something to be aware of is 'retracing' ," warns Speer. This is a recurrence of old problems that has been widely recognized among natural healers. Some people may find this discouraging; but if they stick with the products, they are sure to see powerful results.


posted by Joel at 7:17 PM

Shirley asks:

I have a cat that is 18 years old. She has, I think, arthritis in her hind-leg joints. This morning I used some Neutralizer Gel on her. I will do it again this evening before I go to bed. I sure hope it helps her. It is painful for me to see her in pain. I will let you know in a few days how it is working for her.

Does anyone else have an experience or know of anyone who has used the gel in this way?

Shirley

Miz Judy answers:

Do that, and also give her some neutralizer in her drinking water, and put Neutralizer Gel on her tongue.

Here's how to bathe her in your leftover bath water:

* Put on a pair of gloves.
* Wrap her in a towel so she can't kick.
* Gradually lower her into the tub, and hold her there, gently, keeping her head above water.
* Saturate the towel and let her soak.

When she calms down, she will start to relax, and later beg you to bathe her again the next time you bathe. Do this until you begin to see a change in her condition. If she will allow you to, mist-spray her belly daily.

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posted by Joel at 9:03 PM

Miz Judy asked me to share with you the experience we have been having with Miracle II. I think we havn't used it long enough to show any tremendous results at this time. But the little daily things I see are what have made me re-order these unique products.

Where we live we have a problem with stinky sulfur water. I am forbidden to use Herbal Essence; it stinks so bad after mixing it with this foul-smelling water...if you can imagine it, the smell intensifies 100%--absolutely disgusting.

Well, since using the Miracle II soap I have noticed that the bath water hardly has any smell to it...the sulfur smell is gone.

My husband uses Head and Shoulders to control dandruff. He has been using only the regular [Miracle II] soap to wash his hair for a couple of weeks now and has seen no dandruff flakes...other shampoos make this happen within the first wash.

I have bathed my dogs twice in the bath water after I have had my bath. Their hair comes out clean and smelling sweet, soft and manageable with a comb.

My hair is clean and I use just a tich of the hand and body lotion for a conditioner...and it works great. I have no problems putting a comb through my fine hair. Without conditioner, I usually have a ton of knots.

I have used the gel on a toothbrush to brush my dogs' teeth. The change in the chemistry of their breath was instant and gave them sweet-smelling mouths.

I have used the bath water to clean my windows, and I have to say, I have never seen the glass so clean.

All this from one little bottle! What I have seen so far has convinced me this is healthier for us then all the garbage we buy from the store...and over time it will save us a ton of money, rather then cost us a ton of money--because I will be eliminating at least 20 or more other products from my home.


We know that there is much more to come. We haven't been using it long enough to see dramatic results for the things it has taken us years to create...so we will give it time, and enjoy the everyday things we see this replace and make better for us.

Please have a great day!
debbieh
posted by Joel at 2:39 PM